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	<title>Comments on: Racism in Metal: The current state, and its philosophical underpinnings</title>
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		<title>By: Vijay Prozak</title>
		<link>http://blog.writenothing.com/2008/01/09/freemuse-hate-music-music-with-a-heart-full-of-hatred/#comment-10439</link>
		<dc:creator>Vijay Prozak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You misinterpret ANUS because of your own political bias.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We are nihilists, which means we see reality literally, without a moral filter. Science and history are our guides.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Pay attention to this:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.goodrumj.com/RFaqHTML.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is a biological component to race, as is obvious since grouped traits always have a genetic component.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is worthwhile to preserve the individual traits of every population, whether Aztec or German.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, we stand against bigotry in all forms. Bigotry in our view is assigning superior/inferior designations to different races; our point is that honest racial separation leads to preservation of culture, which is our only resistance to corporate existence.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We do not own or operate the anti-humanism web site.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You misinterpret ANUS because of your own political bias.</p>

<p>We are nihilists, which means we see reality literally, without a moral filter. Science and history are our guides.</p>

<p>Pay attention to this:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.goodrumj.com/RFaqHTML.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('comment_/http://www.goodrumj.com/RFaqHTML.html');" >http://www.goodrumj.com/RFaqHTML.html</a></p>

<p>There is a biological component to race, as is obvious since grouped traits always have a genetic component.</p>

<p>It is worthwhile to preserve the individual traits of every population, whether Aztec or German.</p>

<p>However, we stand against bigotry in all forms. Bigotry in our view is assigning superior/inferior designations to different races; our point is that honest racial separation leads to preservation of culture, which is our only resistance to corporate existence.</p>

<p>We do not own or operate the anti-humanism web site.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Meow Mix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meow Mix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I didn't see anything remotely incoherent or confusing about anything said by ANUS.com. They may be pretty weird or angry but what they say makes sense. They want seperate cultures and races. So? If indeed it is racism why are we fixated on it anyway? These are the same bands that worship Satan and talk about disembowelding fetuses and sleeping with dead bodies, but we're offended by racism? For example:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;"Oooh, I'm going to start a death metal band about raping dead children but we won't be racist because racism is bad and mean."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is the type of air-head liberal mentality found in the metal community today. They want to be rebellious but in a 'safe' way by embracing PC nonsense. Metal is about provoking and transcending modernity and if it offends someone since when was the metal community supposed to care?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see anything remotely incoherent or confusing about anything said by ANUS.com. They may be pretty weird or angry but what they say makes sense. They want seperate cultures and races. So? If indeed it is racism why are we fixated on it anyway? These are the same bands that worship Satan and talk about disembowelding fetuses and sleeping with dead bodies, but we&#8217;re offended by racism? For example:</p>

<p>&#8220;Oooh, I&#8217;m going to start a death metal band about raping dead children but we won&#8217;t be racist because racism is bad and mean.&#8221;</p>

<p>This is the type of air-head liberal mentality found in the metal community today. They want to be rebellious but in a &#8217;safe&#8217; way by embracing PC nonsense. Metal is about provoking and transcending modernity and if it offends someone since when was the metal community supposed to care?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think its an interesting subject youre on to. 
I believe individualism to be different from racism, because racism collectively condamn people just because of their heritage. And the statements from ANUS.com - well, thats something I often recognize with White Supremacist groups, that often pick their words carefully, so it might seem more profit, but in the end of the day you(or at least I) just see it as another form of racism. And culture, in my opinion should have nothing to do with the colour of ones skin. Thats for me, very separate. Culture is more about what youre born into.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ive noticed some people bringing forth the anti - christian phenomenon, and I want people to actually think about that religions like christianity has had pretty much blood on its hands troughout history and it still has different places in the world. That might be the reason why people oppose it. I think both politics and religion as well as culture has been responsible for supressing other individuals. But referring to those of you that defend this(as I see it) manipulating ideology of fascism, I think you are just about as bad as what the christianity has represented. Not to mention the fact that the jews where percecuted by christians for centuries.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its an interesting subject youre on to. 
I believe individualism to be different from racism, because racism collectively condamn people just because of their heritage. And the statements from ANUS.com - well, thats something I often recognize with White Supremacist groups, that often pick their words carefully, so it might seem more profit, but in the end of the day you(or at least I) just see it as another form of racism. And culture, in my opinion should have nothing to do with the colour of ones skin. Thats for me, very separate. Culture is more about what youre born into.</p>

<p>Ive noticed some people bringing forth the anti - christian phenomenon, and I want people to actually think about that religions like christianity has had pretty much blood on its hands troughout history and it still has different places in the world. That might be the reason why people oppose it. I think both politics and religion as well as culture has been responsible for supressing other individuals. But referring to those of you that defend this(as I see it) manipulating ideology of fascism, I think you are just about as bad as what the christianity has represented. Not to mention the fact that the jews where percecuted by christians for centuries.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Carley! D-Star</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carley! D-Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I happen to be one of those kids that listen to Hardcore, Metal music, and alot of different types of music. Music is music, and it doesnt matter what race you are, you can listen to whatever pleases you! Just because you listen to Hardcore Music doesnt mean that your full of hate. I am the Happiest, positive person i know, and i happen to make others positive as well. Those people dont judge me by my music, they judge me on the type of person i am. So i say, Black, White,Yellow, Purple, Polka dots listen to what you want to and dont let others tell you otherwise. :]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happen to be one of those kids that listen to Hardcore, Metal music, and alot of different types of music. Music is music, and it doesnt matter what race you are, you can listen to whatever pleases you! Just because you listen to Hardcore Music doesnt mean that your full of hate. I am the Happiest, positive person i know, and i happen to make others positive as well. Those people dont judge me by my music, they judge me on the type of person i am. So i say, Black, White,Yellow, Purple, Polka dots listen to what you want to and dont let others tell you otherwise. :]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Yuletide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuletide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Perpetuum Mobile: I appreciate your raising this important issue. I think one reason anti-christianity hasn't garnered much attention (at least from me) is that is isn't really in the same league as the other *isms, since it is animosity directed against the &lt;em&gt;dominant&lt;/em&gt; group, rather than the opposite. All of these forms of prejudice have a complicated definition (sociologically) that take into account more than simply "judging" someone based on a certain factor. Using racism as an example (from the &lt;a href="http://www.racismnoway.com.au/library/understanding/index-Referenc.html#hreoc98" rel="nofollow"&gt;Australian Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission&lt;/a&gt;, emphasis added):&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Racism is an ideology that gives expression to myths about other racial and ethnic groups, that devalues and renders inferior those groups, that &lt;em&gt;reflects and is perpetuated by deeply rooted historical, social, cultural and power inequalities in society.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Does this help clarify things? I'm not advocating hatred, or animosity towards &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; group, but I believe the effects of these power dynamics are often (erroneously) ignored.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oliver: Could you clarify what you mean by "commie-liberal slant"? That term is thrown around a lot, but is usually just a gloss for poorly articulated reactionism... And I think the whole opposing-racism-in-metal thing is not so much to change the &lt;em&gt;racists&lt;/em&gt;, but rather to make it clear that the vast majority of the metal community doesn't support or endorse this behavior, and despite the music's individualism, it is NOT inherently racist or even hateful.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perpetuum Mobile: I appreciate your raising this important issue. I think one reason anti-christianity hasn&#8217;t garnered much attention (at least from me) is that is isn&#8217;t really in the same league as the other *isms, since it is animosity directed against the <em>dominant</em> group, rather than the opposite. All of these forms of prejudice have a complicated definition (sociologically) that take into account more than simply &#8220;judging&#8221; someone based on a certain factor. Using racism as an example (from the <a href="http://www.racismnoway.com.au/library/understanding/index-Referenc.html#hreoc98" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('comment_/http://www.racismnoway.com.au/library/understanding/index-Referenc.html#hreoc98');" >Australian Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission</a>, emphasis added):</p>

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  <p>Racism is an ideology that gives expression to myths about other racial and ethnic groups, that devalues and renders inferior those groups, that <em>reflects and is perpetuated by deeply rooted historical, social, cultural and power inequalities in society.</em></p>
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<p>Does this help clarify things? I&#8217;m not advocating hatred, or animosity towards <em>any</em> group, but I believe the effects of these power dynamics are often (erroneously) ignored.</p>

<p>Oliver: Could you clarify what you mean by &#8220;commie-liberal slant&#8221;? That term is thrown around a lot, but is usually just a gloss for poorly articulated reactionism&#8230; And I think the whole opposing-racism-in-metal thing is not so much to change the <em>racists</em>, but rather to make it clear that the vast majority of the metal community doesn&#8217;t support or endorse this behavior, and despite the music&#8217;s individualism, it is NOT inherently racist or even hateful.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Metalheads Against Racism isn't actually an effective site to combat online racism. First, if the guy who runs the site knows what attracts  people to Anus.com and other racist websites, then he'll know what's wrong with his site. Plus I'm turned off by Metalheads Against Racism's commie-liberal slant. If people wish to truly fight bigotry and online slander, then metal's message of egoism and  individualism should take the forefront in their message boards, not this rehashed Marxist nonesense.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metalheads Against Racism isn&#8217;t actually an effective site to combat online racism. First, if the guy who runs the site knows what attracts  people to Anus.com and other racist websites, then he&#8217;ll know what&#8217;s wrong with his site. Plus I&#8217;m turned off by Metalheads Against Racism&#8217;s commie-liberal slant. If people wish to truly fight bigotry and online slander, then metal&#8217;s message of egoism and  individualism should take the forefront in their message boards, not this rehashed Marxist nonesense.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Perpetuum Mobile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perpetuum Mobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 05:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting that large section of the article is discussing racism, anti-semitism and nazis, but leaves out anti-christianism. I bet that anti-christianism outweighs all the others combined 10 to 1. Why is anti-christianism ignored?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that large section of the article is discussing racism, anti-semitism and nazis, but leaves out anti-christianism. I bet that anti-christianism outweighs all the others combined 10 to 1. Why is anti-christianism ignored?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Reflecting Pool + Future Miracles &#124; Reflections on a Ridiculous World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reflecting Pool + Future Miracles &#124; Reflections on a Ridiculous World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] (and doing loads of research, my all-time favorite method of procrastination. Other than writing posts about racism in metal. I also did some fieldwork, sending out questions to the metal community in an attempt to gain some [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: My Metal Manifesto: DRAFT at Reflections on a Ridiculous World</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Metal Manifesto: DRAFT at Reflections on a Ridiculous World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] happens to be a bit racist. But the philosophical stuff is still pretty interesting. See my post here for a critique of the ANUS.com stuff and general commentary on the effects of race in the metal [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: What does it mean to be Metal? (Re)(de)constructing a definition of Metalness. m/ at Reflections on a Ridiculous World</title>
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		<dc:creator>What does it mean to be Metal? (Re)(de)constructing a definition of Metalness. m/ at Reflections on a Ridiculous World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 04:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] happens to be a bit racist. But the philosophical stuff is still pretty interesting. See my post here for a critique of the ANUS.com stuff and general commentary on the effects of race in the metal [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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